Found some more pest in my new setup... Pyramid snail!

[ctxmonitor]

I just pull these little snails off of a zoo. I was just asking jennie how does pyramid snail look like and bam.. I came across this cool looking snails and just when I went online search a few sites and saw that these cool looking snails are prest (non-reef safe). I don't know if I have more but I took out these two. They are very hard to pull out too.. They are small and they have this slimy string attach to the zoo.

Here is a picture I took after I took them out.

 

[jenniebutterfly]

thats not a pyramid snail, that is a sundial which is a zoa preditor. take out your zoas, and place them in fresh water for about 5 mintues. check the polyps for eggs, and if you find some, scrape them off. these will make a meal out of all your zoas. they are nasty. you should always freshwater dip your zoas for these and nudis.

as for the pyramid snails, they are elongated sorta like nassarius snails, but way smaller and white, they are about half the size of a grain of rice and sometimes have a dark tip on their shell.

 

[cali_reef]

Umm Sundials for sure. Do you want to sell them?

 

[jenniebutterfly]

haha sell them? what would you use them for out of curiousity. if i had them, i would just give them to you

 

[cali_reef]

To control the zoa problem I have on my clams.

 

[spykes]

dont pyrimid snails go to clams as well?

 

[cali_reef]

These are not pyrimid snails, but yes pyrimid snails do eat and kill your clams.

 

[jenniebutterfly]

cali, what kind of zoas are they? can't you just pull the matt off? if you want i can take the zoas off your hands

 

[ctxmonitor]

really.. I saw the name on melev's website in this link http://www.melevsreef.com/id/pyramid_snail.html

Since he must know more about it then me, I thought it was pyramid snail. So these are Sundials snail. I only took out two of them as I only see these two on one of my zoo. Maybe there is more.. I don't know. Do they hide and come out at night and gazed on my zoo?

 

[cali_reef]

Originally posted by jenniebutterfly:
cali, what kind of zoas are they? can't you just pull the matt off? if you want i can take the zoas off your hands

Not possible, read my post here:
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001053

CTXmonitor
Here is a picture of the clam killingparymid snails, what Melev show is a sundial as well.

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17204

 

[jenniebutterfly]

wow cali, i think it looks nice like that. do the zoas harm the clam at all? i have never kept a clam, but i like the way that looks. wish those zoas were removable they look like they are very nice

 

[cali_reef]

I don't think the zoas are harming the clams, they have been like that for a while now. I just don't want any zoas in my display tank right now. I do have a crap load of the same zoas I can easily get out of my surge pool, you can have some if you do come by for the canopy. Speaking of that, I need to get you a picture soon.

 

[jenniebutterfly]

lol i may not need the canopy, working on a new idea since i am not using the halides anymore, now i have the T5s that fastuno had.

 

[ctxmonitor]

Cali, that is quite handful of clam you got there. Wouldn't the zoo make the clam harder to open and close? Since they are growing all over it. So I guess I throw these snails over the flashwater tank I have.. Do you think they survive the freshwater.. I guess there is only one way to see.

 

[ShaunW]

I once had zoanthids grow on a clam like yours cali.

They ended up killing the clam once they grew to the top of the mantle. I never allow any of my zoanthids to touch any other corals!

 

[cali_reef]

ctxmonitor. I don't think the snails will live out of salt water. Let me know if you find more, I will buy them from you.

solbby, how long you had the zoas on the clams before they died.

[ April 20, 2005, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: cali_reef ]

 

[ctxmonitor]

cali, if I find enough to give you, I let you know. No point in coming over for two pest

.

 

[ShaunW]

cali - the zoanthids were on the clam for many months! But once they reached the clams living soft tissue on all sides it was downhill from there. I would say it took about another 2 months (give or take) for the clam to surcome to the zoanthids.

The zoos actually invaded into the clam! growing into the inside of the shell (while the clam was still trying to say alive) that is normally not visible. The zoos that did it were a particually fast grower and a total pain to deal with.

 

[4angel]

ctxmonitor how and where did the snail come from. Did you get them from some LR?

 

[cali_reef]

Originally posted by ctxmonitor:
cali, if I find enough to give you, I let you know. No point in coming over for two pest

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Did the two survive the fresh water tank?

I might be desperate enough to drive to Brooklyn for two snails.