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Long-Island-Mike

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Happy New Year!!!!! its been about 2 weeks and the fry are still eating and doing great. I do have a silly question though. I noticed yesterday they two adult cardinals were acting funny. One was twitching alot and following the other around. Today I noticed the one cardinal had the sack again and is moving something around in its mouth. When I fed the tank, the one cardinal stayed on the bottom not interested in eating. It is now keeping its mouth open? I really dont think it could have eggs in its mouth again, or could it?
I hope you all had a wonderful New Year!!!
Mike
 

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From what I remember when I was breeding them, there is roughly about a weeks or less between the babies free swimming and them spawning again. If you don't feed them extremely generously during those 2 weeks, the male will probably be too hungry to hold the eggs the entire time. I personally stole the eggs every other batch and tried to artificially incubate them in a tumbler because I was afraid he was getting too skinny.
 

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From what I remember when I was breeding them, there is roughly about a weeks or less between the babies free swimming and them spawning again. If you don't feed them extremely generously during those 2 weeks, the male will probably be too hungry to hold the eggs the entire time. I personally stole the eggs every other batch and tried to artificially incubate them in a tumbler because I was afraid he was getting too skinny.

Wow, Thats wild. I do feed my tank every day, I am just not sure if its enough to get him through this process. How long does it usually take for the fry to become free swimming? I really didnt notice it the first time till they were already out of the male. Thank you again for all the help.

Jeral....I am not sure how to respond to your post :lol2:
 

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Ming is spot on , if the male is to hungry he will eat the eggs. otherwise the male will spit the babys out 23 days after she gives him the egg sack. many times the lil guys are all hatched and just trapped in his mouth lol.If you can net him he will spit all the babys the second he is lifted from the water. thats how you can maximize you fry. just catch him on day 22 or 21.

if u want more to survive. hatch some brine and mix it with cyclops or daphnia for the first couple days. only the largest few of the newborn fry can eat frozen cyclops. but they grow fast. if you only feed them bbs they will die so u have to get them onto cyclops and daphnia asap.
 

Long-Island-Mike

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Ming is spot on , if the male is to hungry he will eat the eggs. otherwise the male will spit the babys out 23 days after she gives him the egg sack. many times the lil guys are all hatched and just trapped in his mouth lol.If you can net him he will spit all the babys the second he is lifted from the water. thats how you can maximize you fry. just catch him on day 22 or 21.

if u want more to survive. hatch some brine and mix it with cyclops or daphnia for the first couple days. only the largest few of the newborn fry can eat frozen cyclops. but they grow fast. if you only feed them bbs they will die so u have to get them onto cyclops and daphnia asap.

Hi Arati, Thank you very much for all the help and information. A couple of weeks ago when I noticed the first free swimming fry, the male had maybe 4 more in his mouth. I waited and watched for hours LOL, he never let them go till the night. I was able to rescue three. If all goes well this time, I will try and net him to release the fry. I have been feeding them cyclops dipped in garlic and vitachem, they seem to love it. I also have them in my refuge, so I am sure they are getting there full of pods. Do you think that is good enough, I will look into hatching some brine aswell.
Thank you again
Mike
 

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