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Pinkheine

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If you have a QT and you quaranteen a fish. It shows no sign of illness and is added to the main tank. Becomes stressed, gets ich, does it go back in QT? Doesn't that mean that the main tank has ich now?

I never quiet understood the purpose of the QT tank. Can someone that has been successfully keeping a tank going with fish and a QT running please explain. We have never had one and I am not really sure I see the need. So I am curious as to what the actual benefits are. For me I think fish get sick if they are unhealthy. Sometimes they pull through with proper diet and vitamins, other times not. Also I would think that pulling a fish out of the main tank and putting it into a smaller barren one would cause more stress in turn making situations worse. IDK, can someone shed some light? TIA.
 

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A QT tank (should) never be more of a problem. Most people us use them to keep from introducing pest from other tanks but they also can be used to reduce stress a perfectly healty fish can be introduced into our seemingly healty tank and get ick its like the common cold. And think about what that new fish has been through wholesaler to distributer to retailer to you tank changes water changes temp changes.Not to many of us watch a fishes progress at an lfs for a week or so to make sure its healty. They just got in what you wanted so you buy before someone else does. A week or 2 in a QT gives him time to settle down with no compititon and then you can slowly acclimate them when you have the time to do it properly.And for a fish that develops ick in your tank sure alot of times they can recover on there own and your out break can go away but your chances are much better treating the infected fish and killing the parisites he is carrying to limit the outbreak in a less commpetitive envirment As for ick itself look at the boards lately thread after thread about out breaks healty tanks good parameters no new intros it dont spread like the flu but it seems that way I think the only thing we have in common is the changing seasons and struggling water temps. We turned off our chillers and maybe that 2 year old heater is strugling to keep temps on these cold nights till the the lights come back on And cant forget if we ever bought a peice of rock,coral or fish we all have ich
 

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I personally think QT's are excellent in theory but difficult to do successfully and feel Ive lost more fish in QT's than from illness do to difficulty in maintaining paramaters due to the effect of copper on the biofiltration. Even with rigorous w/c's, using filter media that has been introduced in maintank to establish good bacteria base, and every other method suggested. The constant waterchanges and other aspects make it very unstable.

Just my opinion from the some 20X's i tried to set them up.
 

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thats why I wrote (should) never I like alot of people cut corners on the right or best equipment for my main tank its hard to duplicate that for a seldom used QT but I think its something we should strive for. I think we all know that feeling of helplessness (I dont even know if thats a word) we feel when our perfect tank starts to crash from ick or some other avoidable hitchhicker
 

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It's actually easy to set up and shouldn't cost more than $50 to set up if you know where to look and $100 if you decide to go retail, unless you have a shark or QT'ing a bunch of fish which you should not anyway. I once had 2 QT up and running for 4 weeks. If the fish can't survive in your QT in those short weeks, then they will probably have problem thriving in aquarium life or are sick to begin with.

The only tough part is the every 2-3 day water change you have to do. But most QT tanks are less than 20g so that shouldn't be a lot of work in terms of WC. Just run carbon if u feed a lot and a regular Penguin filter, no LR and some things for the fish to hide you should be good in the short term.
 

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Ive only used a QT in the past in emergancy situations but i'm in the process of a 75 gal upgrade the right way and plan on keeping on of the smaller tanks (a 29 gal) running for a QT
 
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I have been running a saltwater tank for two years without a QT. I have dumped fish directly in my tank and never had a problem until recently. My tank is a community tank, no aggressive fish, all my fish are well fed and extremely healthy looking. I put in a Kole Tang that looked healthy and fed actively at the LFS. After about a week, he looked like he came down with ich. I felt like it was not big deal - I, like many of you, assumed that I always had ich in my tank and it was like a cold.

It is NOT like a cold. Since then, I lost the tang and three of my other previously healthy fish. At least three of the ones that are still alive show obvious signs of infection and I think there is little hope for them. Out of 12 fish originally, I think I will have 3-4 left after all is said and done.

There are a lot of myths surrounding ich. First of all, there are multiple strains. Secondly, a lot of what people think is ich is actually marine velvet, which seems to be more virulent. Thirdly, a fish's immunity only lasts about 6 months (according to the articles on this from reefkeeping.org).

I tried QTing fish twice before: once when I bought a fish that looked healthy in the store but when I got it home it had a sore on its side; and the second time right after I set up my tank and I bought a clownfish from petco that had ich. In both cases, the fish died. I used that as a rationale for not QTing.

I think the problem is that we do QTing wrong. A good QT tank should always be set up. We shouldn't be setting them up and taking them back down again over and over again. That, in combination with the lack of filtration that is generally mandated for QT tanks leads to really unstable tank conditions.

I am not going to make this particular mistake twice. Watching my fish die of disease is heartbreaking. They have lasted a long time with it - a testament to how healthy they were previously. I thought my mandarin was dead since I hadn't seen him in days, but I saw him last night. He has the infection so badly that his entire head is white. However, he is still fat and still swimming around. I am sure he will succumb to the disease eventually.

When I setup my QT tank, I am actually going to use both sand and rock. I know this means that if the fish is sick, it might take longer to cure the problem, but it will be worth it for the extra biological filtration. The QT tank will be set up at all time. I am not going to run a skimmer; just GAC through a phosban reaction. I'm using strip lights (since fish don't really need light) and a heater on a single stage controller to keep the temperature steady and that is it. I plan to QT all new fish for two weeks at minimum. In tank that has liverock and stable parameters, it should not affect the health of the fish adversely. All water changes will come directly from my main tank to keep the parameters as similar as possible.

Just my $0.02.
 

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