Fish List for 75

[ZBT3091]

After my 75 cycles i hope to add some inverts and corals and then some fish. Here is my fish list, tell me what you think.

Flame Angel, Sleeper Head Goby, Pair of LyreTail Anthias, Pair of False Percs, McCosker Flasher Wrasse, Chalk Bass, and im thinking about maybe trying a copperband. How does this look? Inverts will be shrimp, snails, an urchin, hermits. Corals are mushrooms, softies, and lps.

 

[that fish guy]

Save ur money and don't try a copperband butterfly and if you do try him you can not do any inverts-shrimps and snails and he has a 85% chance he will eat all of your coral. Also a flame angel is only 70% reef safe, you putting him with corals is risky (I would not take the chance, I have heard too many stories of them not working in a reef), also sleeper head gobies are the only large goby to can be kept in a pair and they do better in a pair, so i would get 2. Also, the anthias will die if you only have 2, anithas need to be in groups of at least 3, and they have to be kept in a 2(female) to 1(male) ratio. If you do not follow this ratio they will die. Lastly, the pair of clowns will not be a pair for to much longer, the only problem you will incounter is in about 2-5 years depending on the size of the clowns is that they will kill each other. The problem with getting 2 of them is until clowns reach maturity they do not have a gender, when they mature they pick a gender (male or female), if you end up with 2 males they will kill each other or if you get 2 females they will kill each other. The only way they will get along is if you have a male and female, and even then you still can have a problem because after they mature and choose a gender, they can change that gender. So if you do end up with a male and female, the male can change to a female and they will kill each other. The one way you can 2 of them and be 90% positive that they won't kill each other is if you buy a mated pair. If you get a mated pair since the male and female are happy together they will most likey in change gender, but if they become unhappy with each other, one will change gender and kill the other one. I had a friend who bought 2 onyx clown fish (rare black clowns with 3 white stripes and a brownish orange nose) as babies, he brought each one for a 150 bucks. When they matured one was a male and the other a female, they were living happy together for 5 years and one day the female changed to a male and attacked the other one. Fortunately, he saved the attacked one and actually gave it to me. If I was going to sell that fish me local fish store would give me 200 bucks for the fish (nice profit).

 

[Killerdrgn]

I was pretty sure once a male clownfish changes to a female it can't change sex again. I think It was only a one way street for clownfish at least.

 

[qy7400]

I have flame angel and coral beauty, neither have picked at LPS or softies; not 100% guaranteed but well fed and they are normally OK, SPS I would be very cautious.
Anthias will not die in pairs, they are recommended in three but thats it. I have a single (princess), pair (lyertail) and trio (squareback) and never had a problem other than feeding.
Clown fish are aggressive/territorial fish yes but IME it's the females that are the killers. As killerdrgn mentioned clown fish are born non gender specific and will grow into males and few to females; once a female they can not switch back.

 

[skene]

Basically... the larger of the 2 will become a female. Just get the pair at one shot and you should be fine.
Angels and butterflies you must always be cautious with as they have a tendency to pick on rock, so anything on the rocks are at any given time a meal.
My shrimp are always in locations where my angel and butterfly do not swim to, so they are always looking for a meal since they are never our in the open.

 

[h20 freak]

Ya, copperbands are trouble, better to leave them alone.


Clowns change sex based on a hierarchy,when they mature the dominant one becomes female and the second is male.The female makes sure the other stays a male(this is the occasional bickering you see between pairs). If you have two females, yes they will kill each other, not likely with two males, they fight it out until one becomes dominant and thus, female.Sometimes one or both can be injured enough to die, to counter this you practice clear dominance, meaning one is big enough to scare the other into being submissive.

My advice, when your at your lfs, look for a tank filled with clowns(this is quite common) Get a big and a small one.


2-5 years is a pretty long time as well, they should mature quicker then that, its not like we get them as larvae.

And yes, sometimes the female will catch the male checking out the new angel fish and all hell will break lose.It happens, but it wasn't a maturity thing, that aforementioned pair had been their sex for a long time.