My new ORA Platinum Clownfish

[goodwin9]

My new Platinum clowns arrived this week.

 

[HELLYEAH]

I WANT A PAIR

 

[Anonymous]

Blech. It looks like they've been dipped in white-out.

But more power to you if that's what floats your boat.

 

[goodwin9]

Blech. It looks like they've been dipped in white-out.

But more power to you if that's what floats your boat.

That was my first thought too. I guess what I liked most about them is that they are different from your everyday clowns.

 

[Anonymous]

It is nice to have something a bit unusual, and personal taste is what's important!

 

[jhemdal1]

Just curious if anyone really knows - are these genetically or developmentally derived? An example of the first would be bettas, which produce offspring with predictable genetics. An example of the latter would be certain changes made during the growth phase (like adding methyl testosterone to tanks of baby discus) changes the phenotype (the way the fish looks). I had been approached by a clownfish breeder years ago who had planned on exposing developing eggs with high levels of L-thyroxine in the hopes of changing the phenotype of the fish...not that I agree with that of course.

I'm guessing that it is more like it is with koi - the basic genetic mutations are reinforced to the point where they throw "sports" now and again, and then the best looking (or most derived) are retained, and coveted, while the non-sports are sold as regular fish.


Jay

 

[goodwin9]

Just curious if anyone really knows - are these genetically or developmentally derived? An example of the first would be bettas, which produce offspring with predictable genetics. An example of the latter would be certain changes made during the growth phase (like adding methyl testosterone to tanks of baby discus) changes the phenotype (the way the fish looks). I had been approached by a clownfish breeder years ago who had planned on exposing developing eggs with high levels of L-thyroxine in the hopes of changing the phenotype of the fish...not that I agree with that of course.

I'm guessing that it is more like it is with koi - the basic genetic mutations are reinforced to the point where they throw "sports" now and again, and then the best looking (or most derived) are retained, and coveted, while the non-sports are sold as regular fish.


Jay

Here is the information I have seen from ORA....

Direct from ORA:


"The Platinum Percula is a nearly all white variation of the True Percula Clownfish. The result of years of selective breeding, the Platinum Percula is derived from our famous Picasso Clownfish. This striking white clownfish develops orange and then black fins as it matures, and retains some orange color in the face.
Not to be confused with the Snowflake Clownfish, which is actually A. ocellaris, the Platinum Percula shows none of the original stripes characteristic of the species. While the middle stripe of the Snowflake is wide and has jagged edges, the Platinum Percula is continuously white from head to tail. No other clownfish, from the wild or from breeders, has ever come close to appearance of the Platinum Percula.
This is the rarest of any clownfish color morph ever developed, and it will be the ultimate prize for any serious clownfish connoisseur. While experimenting with pairing new Picassos, even the breeders at ORA™ were surprised to find this extraordinary result.
As the juveniles began to grow-out we noticed the development of black fins on the rapid growers. At first the dorsal, pectoral, ventral and caudal fins appeared to be clear with some orange color. Then some black pigment appeared on the fins, as true perculas typically do produce more black color as they age. Finally we observed the full black fin color develop, and nothing looked more astonishing than black fins on a white clownfish. These fish will be shipped as juveniles with very little fin color, but expect to observe the full color develop over time."

 

[fishinchick]

After seeing a snowflake clown and some missbar clowns and those stubbies I didn't think that clownfish could be more unattractive.

Apparently I was wrong.

Glad you like them though. Not for me.

I don't think all this 'selective genetics' is a cool thing.

 

[Terra Ferma]

After seeing a snowflake clown and some missbar clowns and those stubbies I didn't think that clownfish could be more unattractive.

Apparently I was wrong.

Glad you like them though. Not for me.

I don't think all this 'selective genetics' is a cool thing.

Whats up with the expensive fish bashing? If you have ever eaten a vegetable, or meat derived from a domesticated animal, or owned a dog then you are supporting selective genetics!

 

[Anonymous]

After seeing a snowflake clown and some missbar clowns and those stubbies I didn't think that clownfish could be more unattractive.

Apparently I was wrong.

Glad you like them though. Not for me.

I don't think all this 'selective genetics' is a cool thing.

Whats up with the expensive fish bashing? If you have ever eaten a vegetable, or meat derived from a domesticated animal, or owned a dog then you are supporting selective genetics!

I wouldn't call fishinchick's post "bashing". She was just expressing her opinion.

 

[Terra Ferma]

Perhaps, yes. But I don't see anywhere in the initial post where he asked "how do you feel about my clownfish?" And when people throw out the "I don't like selective genetics" line when discussing unique CB clownfish...that is just silly.

 

[Anonymous]

Perhaps, yes. But I don't see anywhere in the initial post where he asked "how do you feel about my clownfish?" And when people throw out the "I don't like selective genetics" line when discussing unique CB clownfish...that is just silly.

There you go, that's you expressing yours.

Half the fun of a board like this is the variety of opinions expressed. Let's not stamp on any of them. I love that feeling goodwin must have now with a cool new pair of unusual fish, though they're not to my taste, so I'm pleased for him/her. Fishinchick's post was in no way bashing goodwin, just being part of the debate. It's all good. 8)

 

[goodwin9]

I don't mind to comments at all. The Platinums are different and have gotten a lot of mixed reactions from people who have seen them in person. I am looking forward to watching them grow to full size and see what developes. If you've seen one percula, tomato, or clarkii, you've seen them all. I like to find things that are less rarely seen.

 

[Anonymous]

I understand that. I bet if I saw them in person, they'd be a real chance I'd end up falling in love with the little buggers!