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You guys are gonna love this....
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A-FREAKIN-MAZING
Now we're talkin' Nobel Prize.
I hope this works. I'd be afraid of being 'hit' by the oil cartels though.
swimmer
Now we're talkin' Nobel Prize.
I hope this works. I'd be afraid of being 'hit' by the oil cartels though.
swimmer
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yup, they pay big to buy this kinda stuff out and then "Forget" to further develop and it sits in a filing cabinet somewhere. Good thing this guy was put on fox news and went public about it. Also his developments were for welding first then applying it to automobiles. Plus the waste byproduct is water which is awesome.
I Don't understand why they had to mention a hybrid version. No need for gas on this system as all you would need to do is add more water which is easier to find than a gas station on some highways =0P :smash:
Wonder how much water would cost per gallon at a Water Station for a fill up :biglaugh:
I Don't understand why they had to mention a hybrid version. No need for gas on this system as all you would need to do is add more water which is easier to find than a gas station on some highways =0P :smash:
Wonder how much water would cost per gallon at a Water Station for a fill up :biglaugh:
Cute video.
However... most reef enthusiasts will quickly realize that there's almost no way he could use tap water to run anything, too many metals. He'd need to buy distilled water and that ain't so cheap.
I'm going to side with masterswimmer on the conspiracy theory that we won't be 'allowed' to buy non gas cars in volume. Jay Leno has been quoted to say that we built steam engines 100 years ago and could way out perform our efficiency there if we only tried.
The most sound argument I ever heard for sticking with gas was that there's 100 Trillion dollars of oil still underground. Would YOU leave that kind of money buried???
However... most reef enthusiasts will quickly realize that there's almost no way he could use tap water to run anything, too many metals. He'd need to buy distilled water and that ain't so cheap.
I'm going to side with masterswimmer on the conspiracy theory that we won't be 'allowed' to buy non gas cars in volume. Jay Leno has been quoted to say that we built steam engines 100 years ago and could way out perform our efficiency there if we only tried.
The most sound argument I ever heard for sticking with gas was that there's 100 Trillion dollars of oil still underground. Would YOU leave that kind of money buried???
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um, yeah. in a heartbeat. Why use up all that oil and pollute this planet further?
Plus, it's not like any of that trillion dollars is going to end up in my pocket. As a matter of fact It will be coming OUT of my pocket and into big-business' pockets.
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bottled water per gallon = 1$ Free if you got a RO/DI.
Gas per gallon = 3$+ and rising.
And i agree with Brett on this. If your getting a check from the gas companies on their profits then i want in on whatever your getting.
I don't think master stated anything about beeing allowed to do anything. The conspiracy theory is that the gas companies will buy out the product and put it in limbo in their research department and never be seen from again.
Metals won't effect much as they are breaking down molecules. The engine would actually purify the water even more.
I think you guys missed the point.
First, I totally agree that the trillion dollars goes into THEIR pockets. That's the reason why they won't let us see this sort of technology.
On the technical side, RO/DI is still not good enough. The water needs to be electrolyzed and short of using very expensive electrodes you'll need to use 100% distilled water to keep from getting buildup there. Not to mention the fat that distilled water is generally more than $1.00 gallon today.
Let's not get too impressed with US car companies buying into water cars. If the Germans or Japanese were buying in then I'd get worried.
First, I totally agree that the trillion dollars goes into THEIR pockets. That's the reason why they won't let us see this sort of technology.
On the technical side, RO/DI is still not good enough. The water needs to be electrolyzed and short of using very expensive electrodes you'll need to use 100% distilled water to keep from getting buildup there. Not to mention the fat that distilled water is generally more than $1.00 gallon today.
Let's not get too impressed with US car companies buying into water cars. If the Germans or Japanese were buying in then I'd get worried.
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nobody said anything about the oil cartels "hitting" us.
the balance of power would shift radically, and several countries would fall into third -world status w/o the influx of oil money... this is something we would have to consider very seriously...
one can distill water with a flame, a glass jar and a bent glass tube and a collection cup. very cheap. we can all do it. it is not difficult - the only thing you get on the other end is distilled water. they did it on gilligan's island, i think...
still cheaper than gas and much more important - we don't have to destroy the earth to do it. we can even use salt water and not deplete the fresh water supplies on this planet, which, like oil, are also not limitless...
i would, however, worry about about the shift in power. it would behoove us to grasp this technology and share it - enable it with the countries that would suffer drastic economic loss over this shift in energy use...
i can't stop thinking about it. will post again as the thoughts come...
the balance of power would shift radically, and several countries would fall into third -world status w/o the influx of oil money... this is something we would have to consider very seriously...
one can distill water with a flame, a glass jar and a bent glass tube and a collection cup. very cheap. we can all do it. it is not difficult - the only thing you get on the other end is distilled water. they did it on gilligan's island, i think...
still cheaper than gas and much more important - we don't have to destroy the earth to do it. we can even use salt water and not deplete the fresh water supplies on this planet, which, like oil, are also not limitless...
i would, however, worry about about the shift in power. it would behoove us to grasp this technology and share it - enable it with the countries that would suffer drastic economic loss over this shift in energy use...
i can't stop thinking about it. will post again as the thoughts come...
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the biggest problem here is that while this is really really good for the planet, it is really really bad for a lot of people who place no value whatsoever on LIFE, and who, in fact, have a history of murdering Americans without a second thought.
this man's life is in danger.
this man's life is in danger.
AMAZING!!!! I bought Toyota Prius couple of months ago and I am very happy about it right now. I am getting almost 50 miles per gallon, both local and highway, and if this new technology is available in the future, I will definately get one myself. Just amazing technology and I am so happy to know that we'll have our alternate fuel source in the future.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Master wasn't talking about a conspiracy theory and gas companies not letting us see this technology - he's talking about getting bombed/attacked and otherwise killed - actually dead - by people who do not love us already.
Master - please correct me if I'm wrong.
and i agree with him on this point.
Master - please correct me if I'm wrong.
and i agree with him on this point.
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As daisy/master mentioned if we all switched to water based engines tomorrow we would be in the midst of WW3 by Saturday. The only thing you have to fear (in regards to other nation states) is desperation. Much of the Middle East is essentially a welfare state whereby the government makes enough money from oil to provide or subsidize all your needs. Take the money away and you will have economic collapse and desperation in a place already at war with the outside world, not a good thing. It will also collapse or strain the economies of some 1st world nations some with histories of robbing their neighbors when times get rough. Again, not a good thing.
The prious, so I've read, is actually one of the least green vehicles around. The environmental cost to make one is astounding and they aren't exactly recyclable. They make computer waste look not so hazardous. In fact I found one study that over the life of the vehicle found a diesel truck to be more "green". It was either motor week or road and track that found an 80s honda hatchback to get better mileage than the current hybrids.
I wrote to Hydrogen Tech to find out the electric draw that this thing takes as I'm very curious. Don't forget that we get much of our electricity from BURNING COAL!!!!!! Which if you don't know isn't very green and kills more people each year than harvesting any other form of energy.
The future is nuclear but the coal/anti government/anti corporation (which hijacked the environmental movement) won't ever let that happen. Most of our subs are nuclear as are many of our naval vessels. None of them blow up, Europe is covered with nuclear plants and builds more every month. We're behind the times and our lobbys have convinced everyone that it's nuclear energy is horrible. The truth is nuclear waste can be burned in the reactor and it becomes a not so bad waste product with a 5,000 year half life that can be processed into a solid.
As I think someone mentioned though the hydrogen engine is nothing new. I wonder how the flame can burn metal, but not in a car engine!? Wouldn't my car engine just melt in a few seconds like the rest of the metals? This guy reminds me of the dude that bulked 50 million with his "video streaming software" in the 80s. It turned out to just be a camcorder and some hidden wires.
The prious, so I've read, is actually one of the least green vehicles around. The environmental cost to make one is astounding and they aren't exactly recyclable. They make computer waste look not so hazardous. In fact I found one study that over the life of the vehicle found a diesel truck to be more "green". It was either motor week or road and track that found an 80s honda hatchback to get better mileage than the current hybrids.
I wrote to Hydrogen Tech to find out the electric draw that this thing takes as I'm very curious. Don't forget that we get much of our electricity from BURNING COAL!!!!!! Which if you don't know isn't very green and kills more people each year than harvesting any other form of energy.
The future is nuclear but the coal/anti government/anti corporation (which hijacked the environmental movement) won't ever let that happen. Most of our subs are nuclear as are many of our naval vessels. None of them blow up, Europe is covered with nuclear plants and builds more every month. We're behind the times and our lobbys have convinced everyone that it's nuclear energy is horrible. The truth is nuclear waste can be burned in the reactor and it becomes a not so bad waste product with a 5,000 year half life that can be processed into a solid.
As I think someone mentioned though the hydrogen engine is nothing new. I wonder how the flame can burn metal, but not in a car engine!? Wouldn't my car engine just melt in a few seconds like the rest of the metals? This guy reminds me of the dude that bulked 50 million with his "video streaming software" in the 80s. It turned out to just be a camcorder and some hidden wires.
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OMG Just heard back from them. This thing takes 40 Amps to run!!!!
Wow. I suppose you would want to jump start that guy.
BTW, I hope he 'leased' the Prius and didn't buy it. I was told the fine print reads that the battery is only covered for 5 years... and the replacement is $5,000. Yes, what you save in oil you spend in Duracell. No, it's not a green car.
Who said that distilling water is easy? I own a distiller and that's plain non-sense. Try to use heat and that glass tube, then let me know about the buildup on the glass and the loss in efficiency. There's plenty of water staining on my distiller at home, plus the thing wastes tons of heat and produces flaming hot water I'd need to cool to use for my tank. I moved to RO long ago.
BTW, I hope he 'leased' the Prius and didn't buy it. I was told the fine print reads that the battery is only covered for 5 years... and the replacement is $5,000. Yes, what you save in oil you spend in Duracell. No, it's not a green car.
Who said that distilling water is easy? I own a distiller and that's plain non-sense. Try to use heat and that glass tube, then let me know about the buildup on the glass and the loss in efficiency. There's plenty of water staining on my distiller at home, plus the thing wastes tons of heat and produces flaming hot water I'd need to cool to use for my tank. I moved to RO long ago.
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the only way we turn to alternative fuel (whatever it is) is if the fat cat in the oil companies ran outa oil. n whatever it is, they will monopolize it n sell it to u. the only difference between the mob n them is their hitman is the lawyers.
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wow. cool little thing to maybe look forward to and all this talk of oil companies whacking people =0P
If this thing ever does happen its not gonna be for another 20 years or so. And the change will be slow allowing the big oil countries to adjust. How many hybrid/electric cars do you see out? and its only been what? 10 years or so?
If this thing ever does happen its not gonna be for another 20 years or so. And the change will be slow allowing the big oil countries to adjust. How many hybrid/electric cars do you see out? and its only been what? 10 years or so?
Electric cars been out more than 100 years ago. Surprisely I saw one of the electric car was built back in early 1900 and it was still running fine. And GM created really awsome electric car and they totally destroyed them all.
You should watch the documentary called Who killed electric car.
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My comments about getting 'hit' by the oil cartels was prismatic. By that I mean we'd be hit from so many different angles our heads would spin.
First, the inventor better watch his back.
Second, the domestic oil companies would do everything in their power to suppress this technology.
Third, the auto manufacturers would also look to suppress this technology. Have you ever had to retool an entire industry? The first vehicle produced would basically have to absorb all the cost of R & D. The second vehicle gets to amortize that R & D expense over two vehicles. As more get produced, the expense becomes more palatable to the consumer. Ever notice how expensive the first computer is? First I-Pod? First DVD? Price comes down as they amortize the cost of development. Re-tooling the entire automobile industry would set the cost recovery factor back decades. Remember, the current combustion engine technology has been around since day one. They've never really had a major overhaul. Don't think for a moment the auto manufacturers would embrace this revolution either.
Forth, like daisy, Fred and a couple of others have eluded to also, the OPEC nations that rely almost exclusively on the drilling, refinement and sale of sweet crude would not take kindly to us pulling the rug (or golden parachute) from beneath them. Tread lightly on this point. WWIII will not be pretty (not that WWI or WWII was pretty).
Great technology if it can be mass produced and made efficiently. In order for it to work IMO, the current fossil fuel providers would have to have a major hand in the transition and future of it for it to become a viable alternative to our gasoline engines. If not, they have the power to put the kabosh on it.
Just my $.02
swimmer
First, the inventor better watch his back.
Second, the domestic oil companies would do everything in their power to suppress this technology.
Third, the auto manufacturers would also look to suppress this technology. Have you ever had to retool an entire industry? The first vehicle produced would basically have to absorb all the cost of R & D. The second vehicle gets to amortize that R & D expense over two vehicles. As more get produced, the expense becomes more palatable to the consumer. Ever notice how expensive the first computer is? First I-Pod? First DVD? Price comes down as they amortize the cost of development. Re-tooling the entire automobile industry would set the cost recovery factor back decades. Remember, the current combustion engine technology has been around since day one. They've never really had a major overhaul. Don't think for a moment the auto manufacturers would embrace this revolution either.
Forth, like daisy, Fred and a couple of others have eluded to also, the OPEC nations that rely almost exclusively on the drilling, refinement and sale of sweet crude would not take kindly to us pulling the rug (or golden parachute) from beneath them. Tread lightly on this point. WWIII will not be pretty (not that WWI or WWII was pretty).
Great technology if it can be mass produced and made efficiently. In order for it to work IMO, the current fossil fuel providers would have to have a major hand in the transition and future of it for it to become a viable alternative to our gasoline engines. If not, they have the power to put the kabosh on it.
Just my $.02
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Don't forget......even if you could use water to run your car,
We still use oil to make plastics, and everything today is made outta plastic!
We still use oil to make plastics, and everything today is made outta plastic!
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