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tomtoothdoc

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Imbarrie

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The Yahoo answer is pointing out the historical behavior of religion as a form of control over the human condition.

It was meant as a sarcastic response to a dimwitted question and should not be analyzed in this forum as opening the discussion would entail alienating a lot off members.

This post is fire and best left unexamined.
 

MatthewScars

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Interesting reading. While it is passionate, in my opinion the piece lacks sound logic.
"Do not educate them": So atheists are educated and theists are not?
"Lie to them constantly about how the world works": This is very vague. How does the world work?
"Make them loathe their own natural bodies and functions": Vague again. By the way, have you ever taken a look in the toilet after taking a dump? That function is pretty loathesome imo lol.
"Everything enjoyable is grievously wrong to think about": What passes as "everything enjoyable" these days? And isn't "enjoyable" subjective?
"...grovelling to an invisible friend": How is mother nature, or big bang, or abiogenesis doing these days? Just a minute, aren't those just ideas?
"Ensure that they resent anyone who is not like them in every way...teach them to laugh at and dismiss out of hand any faith but their own": Sounds to me like that's what the author is doing.
"Instruct them...to never question for themselves...": Seems like the author is saying that if his kids don't agree with him then they are laughable (he's a little hypocritical don't you think?)
"Make sure they cannot spell, use correct grammer, or understand basic English words": This might make the US the most religious nation on earth, well maybe a lot of MR members lol!
It may just be me but I don't get the logic, so I can't appreciate the purpose. If you sift through it you could find some worthwhile caution, but it's like saying some reefers use undergravel filters and then infer that all reefers use undergravel filters.

Have you ever heard of sarcasm? Now go get ready for church, dear. Im gonna go watch some more fox news.
 

James

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Theism and atheism are not automatic flame wars. There is much to be learned from both sides. My issue with theism is the fact that it is the default and never questioned by the vast majority. It is bizarre what people buy into and how the mind works when confronted with contrary evidence when it is already made up... (or when indoctrinated from a young age). Don;t get me wrong, a lot of atheists are morons too, but I think there comes a time when you get tired of having to hide your (most logical) view just because a majority of people are into bronze age mythology and "faith" like it is a good thing... i would love for this thread to not have any more ad hominem attacks because that does dumb it down to the point where it is better as a closed thread. Atheists and theists can have discussions without devolving into internet insults.... i hope.
 

Imbarrie

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Though I agree with your position I have doubts this thread can continue without alienating or aggravating someone in the community.

It is an important topic that has a huge impact on every aspect of life. But, I have seen people on Manhattan Reefs get into flame wars about whether or not to use a skimmer or high output lighting.

That being said, if you want to keep it going, Im getting the popcorn.
 

MatthewScars

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Though I agree with your position I have doubts this thread can continue without alienating or aggravating someone in the community.

It is an important topic that has a huge impact on every aspect of life. But, I have seen people on Manhattan Reefs get into flame wars about whether or not to use a skimmer or high output lighting.

That being said, if you want to keep it going, Im getting the popcorn.

This thread is on page 2 and there is more discussion about it possibly being closed than actual discussion of the topic.
 

James

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Imbarrie, we shall see. So far it is timid except for Matthew who is kind of like a fire-poker on this site no matter if the topic is religion or what skimmer works best. I guess we will see, I don't want to make more work for the mods but this is an issue that is coming up more and more in the world. I don't care what people believe until the extremes of the monotheistic "big 3" start trying to teach mythology as science in public schools, blow themselves and others up or try to keep women from showing thighs or elbows while passing through bike lanes in certain nabes in brooklyn.... then I speak up. All sides of the same coin. All copying BS dogma from each other. I'm tired of being treated like I am an evil person for not buying into it.
 

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