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mling

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We came home from a 3 day vacation to a tank crash. All the life stock, fishes, hermit crabs…, in my 50 Gal. 3year old, FOWLR tank were dead ! Only a bumble bee snail was some how still alive ! We have named it Morgie, after the star of the Nat Hist Museum’s Hall of Mammals movie about the lone survivor of event that wiped out the Dinosaurs. The circuit breaker to the tank tripped I am therefore pretty sure my tank crash was caused by mechanical failure, electrical that is. Lately I have had problems getting my Powersweep power head to restart after water changes. I am pretty sure it was an electrical failure in my Powersweep power head and caused it to become live in the tank and electrocuted all my live stock. The fishes were not just dead; their insides were all over the tank too. It was ugly. Should have replaced the Powersweep head at the first sign of trouble, learned my lesson the hard way. My question is -> now what ? :cry:

I’ve replaced all the water from the tank with fresh water because the old water was very cloudy and smelled real bad, stank the entire house. I also rinsed the live rock and put them back. I did not remove the substrate. After one day of running a filter and skimmer the water is now clear again. However, Nitrate is about 5 to 10 ppm but the ammonia is through the roof !. I am guessing the my tank is going through the whole “tank cycle” again. Before the crash my numbers were all zero, only Nitrate was about 20 to 50 ppm. Unlike my Reef tank, I always had problem keeping Nitrates very low. Only the other hand, I have only lost a Coral Beauty in this tank before this.

I am wondering if I should replace the live rock or substrate, or both. Does such a tank crash necessitate such drastic measures, which pretty much means starting all over ? I don’t see any of the worms that you see in the substrate, against the glass, moving. But then again, I don’t remember seeing them move much anyway. Is there a way to tell if they are dead ? If they are all dead, would I need to change all my substrate ? The substrate I use is more course than I would like, about 1/16 inch. Since it appears that my thank is cycling, would now be a good time to add an additional inch of finer agroniate for the snails and hermit crabs to have an easier time moving around ?

On the preventative side of things, I believe there is a device that tracks electric leaks of devices in tanks. Would this have help prevent what happened to my tank ?
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i guess it all boils down to the extent of the damage. if your LR is starting to experience dieoff again.. you may want to re-cure it.. eeewww

IMO, though, if it were only a few days I would think the LR and substrate would be ok to keep. I would try to syphon off the substrate if i were you , jsut to get settled det out. BTW 1/16th inch is VERY LITTLE substrate to worry about.

IMO it would be a great time to add more.. maybe an inch or so all around of crushed argonite.

Since there isn't really anything in there besides LR i think it would be a great time to syphon everything out... clean your tank spotless.. and just restart with new substrate and all new water. Just my opinion :)

GL to you with this!
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rbursek

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Sorry about your loss, did not the GFI trip? Do you have a grounding rod in your system? Just asking to learn from your loss.
Bob
 

rbursek

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I would think if it was death by electrocution, all living things in your substrate died off too and will decay if not rinsed and siphoned a few times. IMO
Bob
 

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i would take the rock out and place it in some newly made circulating salt water and trash the substrate. clean out the tank like the very beginning.
get new substrate and put the rock back in and re-cure it.
i'm guessing that substrate is chock-full of dead things :cry:
 
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mr_X":3psj9j3r said:
i would take the rock out and place it in some newly made circulating salt water and trash the substrate. clean out the tank like the very beginning.
get new substrate and put the rock back in and re-cure it.
i'm guessing that substrate is chock-full of dead things :cry:

Ditto.
 
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for future reference-never use anything that runs on a gear in a sw tank environment-the gears will get coated with carbonates/calcium/coralline and freeze up causing mechanical/electrical issues

i've recommended against powersweeps and the like for sw tank from the day i was in a position to sell them
 

mling

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rbursek: I do not have a grounding rod, have heard pros and cons of it.
My curcuit breaker did trip, which is why the entire room was dark. Looks like a power surge did it. We did have heavy thunder storms while I was away.

All : Thanks for all the advice. I've decided to keep the live rock since they still smell fresh but replace my sand bed, just leaving a little to seed. The old sand bed was crush coral and I believe that it was one of the reasons why I had trouble keeping Nitrates low. I have replaced the sand bed with aragonite, the same as my reef tank where nitrates is always next to zero.

So now I just need to be patient and let the tank cycle. Easier to be patient when u have 2 other tanks to tinker with.

We make al ot of long weekend trips out of town and no body is home at that time. One reason why we don't have a Lion fish, as much as we would like to, since I understand they only take live food, not prepared food that an automatic feeder can provide. Hopefully this won't happen again. It was not a pretty sight for my 8 year to home to as she is really into marine stuff, having names for all our fishes.
 

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