Aquacultured Marine Fish Issues

[Money Pit]

After doing a little research I thought I would post the names of some of the fish available from farms;

http://www.c-questpr.com/

False ClownFish
Amphiprion Ocellaris

Percula
Amphirion Percula

Blue Line Melanopus
Amphirion Melanopus

Cinnamon Melanopus
Amphirion Melanopus

Pearly eyed clarkia
Amphirion clarkii

Clark's anemone fish
Amphirion Clarkii

Tomato Clownfish
Amphirion frenatus

Maroon
Premnas biaculeatus

Gold Spine Maroon
Premnas biaculetus

False Skunk
Amphirion akallopisos

Olive Dottyback
Pseudochromis olivaceous

Orchid Dottyback
Pseudochromis fridmani

Striped Dottyback
Pseudochromis sankeyi

Sunrise Dottyback
Pseudochromis flavivertix

Neon Dottyback
Pseudochromis aldabrensis

Splendid Dottyback
Pseudochromis splendens

Red Head Goby
Gobiosoma puncticulatus

Cleaner Goby
Gobiosoma genie

Green band goby
Gobiosoma multifacitum

Convic blenny
Pholidichtys leucotaenia

Saltwater Sailfin Molly
(algae eater)

French Angel
Pomacanthus paru

Queen Angelfish
Holacanthus ciliaris

Squirrelfish
Holocentrus rufus

Flame Cardinal
Apagon pseudomaculatus

Brown Chromis
Chromis multilineata

Beaugregory damsel
Stegastes leucostictus

Red Spotted hawk
Amblycirrhitus pinos

Atlantic Bluetang
Acanthurus coeruleus

Pudding wife
Halichoeres radiatus

Filefish
Cantherhines pullus

Ocean surgeonfish
Acanthurus bahianus

Ballonfish
Diodon holocanthus

Red lip blenny
Ophioblennius atlantics

Royal Gramma
Gramma loreto

Redtail trigger
Xanthichthys ringens

http://www.orafarm.com/

CLOWNFISH SPECIES LIST
False Percula Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris
Clark's Clownfish - Amphiprion clarkii
Tomato Clownfish - Amphiprion frenatus
Gold-Stripe Maroon Clownfish - Premnas biaculeatus
Cinnamon Clownfish - Amphiprion melanopus
Fire Clownfish - Amphiprion ephippium
Australian Clownfish - Amphiprion rubrocinctus
Orange Skunk Clownfish - Amphiprion sandaracinos
Pink Skunk Clownfish - Amphiprion periderion
Saddleback Clownfish - Amphiprion polymnus

DOTTYBACKS SPECIES LIST
Orchid Dottyback - Pseudochromis fridmani
Striped Dottyback - Pseudochromis sankeyi
Sunrise Dottyback - Pseudochromis flavivertix
Splendid Dottyback - Pseudochromis splendens
Neon Dottyback - Pseudochromis aldabraensis

GOBY SPECIES LIST
Neon Goby - Gobiosoma oceanops
Hybrid Cleaner Goby - Gobiosoma oceanops x Gobiosoma randalli
Yellowline Goby - Gobiosoma randalli
Goldline Goby - Gobiosoma louisae

http://www.proaquatix.com/

Sebae anemonefish
Amphiprion sebae

Twoband anemonefish
Amphiprion bicinctus

White-tipped anemonefish
hybrid: Amphiprion sebae x Amphiprion polymnus

Orange skunk clownfish
Amphiprion sandaracinos

Saddleback clownfish
Amphiprion polymnus

Percula clownfish
Amphiprion percula

Ocellaris anemonefish
Amphiprion ocellaris

Cinnamon clownfish
Amphiprion melanopus

Tomato clownfish
Amphiprion frenatus

Fire clownfish
Amphiprion ephippium

Clark's anemonefish
Amphiprion clarkii

Maroon clownfish
Premnas biaculeatus

Lyretail dottyback
Pseudochromis steenei

Blue-striped dottyback
Pseudochromis springeri

Royal gramma
Gramma loreto

Neon dottyback
Pseudochromis aldabraensis

Diadem dottyback
Pseudochromis diadema

Sunrise dottyback
Pseudochromis flavivertex

Orchid dottyback
Pseudochromis fridmani

Golden dottyback
Pseudochromis fuscus

Splendid dottyback
Pseudochromis splendens

Neon cleaner goby
Gobiosoma oceanops

Yellownose goby
Gobiosoma randalli

Golden neon goby (hybrid)
Gobiosoma oceanops x G. randalli

Yellow/blue prawn goby
Cryptocentrus cinctus

Pink-speckled shrimpgoby
Cryptocentrus leptocephalus

Luther's prawn-goby
Cryptocentrus lutheri

Red-headed goby
Elacatinus puncticulatus

Sharknose goby
Gobiosoma evelynae

Striped poison-fang blenny
Meiacanthus grammistes

Green canary blenny
Meiacanthus tongaensis

Disco blenny
Meiacanthus smithi

Canary blenny
Meiacanthus oualanensis

Mozambique fangblenny
Meiacanthus mossambicus

Bundoon blenny
Meiacanthus bundoon

Forktail blenny
Meiacanthus atrodorsalis

Blackline fangblenny
Meiacanthus nigrolineatus

Spotted seatrout
Cynoscion nebulosus

Black drum
Pogonias cromis

Cobia
Rachycentron canadum

Redfish
Sciaenops ocellatus

Florida pompano
Trachinotus carolinus

Please feel free to add any I may have missed. I am honestly surprised at the amount and diversity of aquacultured fish available.

 

[hillbilly]

This is great. Let's all hope they will come a day when there is no market for wild caught fish!

 

[John_Brandt]

This is great. Let's all hope they will come a day when there is no market for wild caught fish!

...and that is the day that you can kiss the Southeast Asian and Indo-Pacific reefs goodbye. It is the economic value of the marine ornamental fishery that keeps poor fishers in island nations from completely trashing their own reefs. The theory of sustainable coastal fisheries is hinged upon villagers getting paid for a continual harvest from reefs that they vigorously protect. If that income is removed they become even poorer and will switch to unsustainable destructive food fishing (cyanide, dynamite, muro-ami, etc.) or to agriculture (which leads to coastal runoff, sedimentation and eutrophism).

There is a serious dilemma between industry-wide large-scale aquacultured reef organisms and wild reef conservation. The issue has thorns.

 

[Anonymous]

agreed John, This hobby is one of the reasons the reefs are being protected and sustained.

Nice list BTW there's a few on there I hadn't realized were available yet.

 

[MaryHM]

I think it's also important to note that many of those species (especially those that aren't gobies or clowns) are not available regularly on a commerical level.

 

[shr00m]

not to be ignorant, but why would natives trash the reefs if there was no cause for them to be there?

 

[MaryHM]

The reefs are the only natural resource that many of the local villages have to earn a living from. Obviously the marine ornamental trade is not the only industry utilizing this resource. Food fish is a BIG factor. I'd much rather have a collector collecting fish for the marine ornamental trade and doing it the right way than have them collecting for the "slash and burn" food fish trade.

 

[Money Pit]

are not available regularly on a commerical level

I think the same could be said about many wild caught fish. Recently I purchased a Blue Tang and was told that Quality Marine had a limit of 1 per customer and I was lucky to get it, why not put the same limit on farm raised until the supply can meet the demand? Wouldn't it be great if those importers that are truely interested in reef conservation not to offer wild caught fish that are available tank raised. I think that would be a start and would help surrport farms like ORA and C-Quest. And the more support they get the more money they have for R&D towards rasing other species.

 

[Anonymous]

Okay so you elimidate clowns and dottybacks and not all of those either. Now what do you do about tank raised fish versus fully aquacultured fish. Also there is a limit of how many aquacultured specimens you may attain. So some may need to fill there quotas with wild fish, and thus the need for the net caught fish arises :wink: .

 

[hillbilly]

Damn! Sounds like a no win situation.

 

[MaryHM]

Actually, there are limits on many of the species you can purchase from the farms simply because they don't have enough to go around. As a small wholesaler, I am unable to import fish from ORA because they give me absolutely no price break for the quantities I need to purchase in (usually 20 lots). It's much better for retailers to buy direct from ORA. However, many don't, and I can't go without bread and butter fish like clownfish and gobies so I have to import them. The situation is much more complicated on all levels that most people perceive.

 

[John_Brandt]

Okay so you elimidate clowns and dottybacks and not all of those either. Now what do you do about tank raised fish versus fully aquacultured fish. Also there is a limit of how many aquacultured specimens you may attain. So some may need to fill there quotas with wild fish, and thus the need for the net caught fish arises :wink: .

I'm confused by your posting Dragoon. "Tank-raised" and "aquacultured" are the same thing aren't they? The distinction is between wild-harvested and cultivated in captivity (be they in tanks, ponds or cages).

Clownfish aquaculturists cultivate these fish mostly because they can and because there is a high demand. Not necessarily because they represent an unsustainable wild-caught fishery. There are also benefits to cultivated like hardiness and disease-resistance, and availability of some species. But collecting clownfish doesn't generally involve damaging reef ecosystems. They are sitting ducks in their anemones, and are easily scooped into a net without the use of cyanide. They are generally a highly-renewable wild resource with their populations mostly limited by available anemones. A clownfish without an anemone is dinner for somebody pronto.

There are probably some villages where clowns are the primary catch. A switch to aquacultured anemonefish in foreign lands puts them out of business. I visited an island village in the Philippines where Maroon Clownfish represented almost 25% of the total weekly catch by numbers (from a total of about 40 species).

As I said before, this one has thorns on all sides of the stem.

 

[Anonymous]

I believe there is a difference between tank raised (harvested wild while in platonic state), captive bred (parents wild caught) and aquacultered (past the 2nd generation).

But, I could be wrong on that 8O

 

[John_Brandt]

With emerging technologies there is a need for meaningful definitions that stick. "Tank-raised", "Tank-reared" and "Captive-bred" have been traditionally used by the trade to designate animals whose parents spawned in captivity with the offspring subsequently reared in captivity. They have been used as synonyms of "aquacultured" and "maricultured".

The method of wild harvesting of post-larval animals that are subsequently reared in captivity needs a name.

 

[Anonymous]

John, I always thought that was "tank raised"... I've always used "Captive bred" to mean raised from eggs spawned in captivity.

There are some others on that list as well. Banggai cardinals (Pterapogon kauderni ?), yellow and blue assessors, (Assessor flavissimus and macneilli). Flame angels were recently CB as well, and available commercially. Some folks in Hawaii are working on a lot of the Centropyge angels as well.

 

[John_Brandt]

Matt, yourself and Knowse might be the only ones who think "Tank Raised" means wild-harvested post-larval animals reared in captivity.

The term "Tank Raised" has been used extensively by the trade and hobbyists to mean the same as aquacultured, captive-reared, maricultured, etc. - with specific ties to the process happening in a tank.

Try Googling the words Tank Raised. You will see exactly what I mean.

We truly need a good term for the wild-harvest of post larval animals.

 

[hdtran]

TEJB writes

We truly need a good term for the wild-harvest of post larval animals

Not only that, but you need for everyone (breeders, marketers, consumers) to all agree to what that term means. Gigabytes with computers, for example, may refer to either 10^9 or 2^30 (and they're not equal, which has led to class action lawsuits...)

So, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, let me propose WHPLA as a term for 'wild harvest and captive rearing of post-larval animals'. I leave you to figure out how to pronounce this acronym. (Or how about CROP, Captive-Rearing Of Postlarvalfish?)

 

[Anonymous]

Matt, yourself and Knowse might be the only ones who think "Tank Raised" means wild-harvested post-larval animals reared in captivity.

The term "Tank Raised" has been used extensively by the trade and hobbyists to mean the same as aquacultured, captive-reared, maricultured, etc. - with specific ties to the process happening in a tank.

Try Googling the words Tank Raised. You will see exactly what I mean.

We truly need a good term for the wild-harvest of post larval animals.

Agreed. I think Inland Aquatics calls them "captive reared" still confusing and hardly descriptive.
Try as I might, I can't seem to think of a good term. :wink:

Jim

 

[Anonymous]

I think someone else out there might think that..

I can't believe I'm about to argue English, but here goes. 'Tank raised' and 'Tank reared' both imply animals that *aren't* born in captivity, when compared to 'Tank bred' or 'Captively bred'.

I just think that if a distinction is made, "bred" should refer to fish born in captivity. "raised" or "reared" should refer to ones caught as post-larval animals, unless there's a more approriate verb. How about "tank adopted"?

 

[John_Brandt]

Regardless of what things ought to be called, you have to deal with what the world is calling such things. Jello, Kleenex & Frisbee know about this.

WHPLASH = Wild Harvest Post Larval Animals Supplying Humanity. Pronounced "Whiplash".



Even the daddy of the larvae hunters doesn't have a catchy name....

Reef fish post-larvae collection and rearing programme for the aquarium market
by Vincent Dufour

http://www.spc.org.nc/coastfish/News/LRF/10/LRF10-10.htm