ANyone has Flame electric scallops ?

[Reef Guy]

Hey,

I just got 2 Flame Electroc scallops from wingo. These things are pretty cool I never seen them at the LFS, they really shoot out bolts of electricity its amazing to watch. Anyone has any of these? What are you guys feeding it? and how long have you had them

 

[Tonyscoots84]

It is a filter feeder, and requires floating micro-plankton to be kept alive in the aquarium, and will do best in a mature reef aquarium system. It also needs proper calcium levels and alkalinity. It does not tolerate nitrates or copper-based medications. It requires supplementation with phytoplankton, and organic foods (Marine Snow or Selcon) provided by using a small pipette/straw to dispense the food upstream of its location. Each Electric Flame Scallop needs to be fed individually.

also as was said in wingos other thread they dont survive very long in a aqaurium and they should be left in the ocean.... were they could thrive... i dont think anyone here has one...

 

[nanoreefer22]

Reef guy...you shouldn't of bought them...they all just eventually fade away dude...sorry to say it but thats the sad reality...sad the wingo passed it onto another reefer after he heard what was gonna happen .
-Kris

 

[DevIouS]

Reef guy...you shouldn't of bought them...they all just eventually fade away dude...sorry to say it but thats the sad reality...sad the wingo passed it onto another reefer after he heard what was gonna happen .

-Kris

Ditto.....

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

Reef guy...you shouldn't of bought them...they all just eventually fade away dude...sorry to say it but thats the sad reality...sad the wingo passed it onto another reefer after he heard what was gonna happen .
-Kris

Strongly Disagreed. My friend did raise them for close to 2 years by now. So, I think this is pretty OK comparing to many reefers having problem keeping CBB for less than six months.

Dr. Foster and Smith rate care level for them to be moderate(not even hard) to keep so how hard could this be?

Finally, please be objective to the subject only and do not inject your personnal opinion towards me. I pass them on to him because I think they are cool and not hard to raise-both have grown bigger since I got them.

Just like Sun polyps, I seen another senior MR reefer having major problem with it does not automatically mean there will problem with another reefer. It is not that I know how to raise them, but my tanks seems to be "dirty enough(yet still Ok looking)to keep them.

As for me, I think the easy ones to you are hard for me to keep but what is hard to you guys is Ok with me. For example, before I can make a mod soon enough, I lost couple Perculas(most people say they are easy to keep) due to the bad design of an overflow box.

 

[Tonyscoots84]

ok so reef guy has em now and we would like to keep them alive... as i had posted reef guy thats what they eat and should be fed seperatly.. take good care of em and lets keep em alive...

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

So actually how many of you guys have raised them and what's your ACTUAL experience. I have an assupmtion though, most of MR reefers who had problems with them may be due temperature and not sufficient time spent on their pets. These are cool temperature animals 72-78F while, I assume, most of you guys are running 78-81F.

I am still keeping 6 of them so please do not assume I am passing the burden to others. JAV, if you worry as a result of what others are saying, bring them back when we trade our hammers. I pay in cash for your used 20G tank instead.

BTW, JAV is a pretty good reefer, even knows how to Frag a lot of the softies with ease.

 

[Deanos]

Hey,

I just got 2 Flame Electroc scallops from wingo. These things are pretty cool I never seen them at the LFS, they really shoot out bolts of electricity its amazing to watch. Anyone has any of these? What are you guys feeding it? and how long have you had them

Good luck with the scallops, Reef Guy. In the future, try to discern what an animal eats :eat: prior to purchasing it; especially 2 of them. Their difficulty of care has already been addressed in this thread and others on the site, as has members' personal experiences with them. Try the SEARCH function.

 

[spykes]

WingoAgency do you know what the eat? do you know where they live in the wild?

 

[coralcrazy]

Wingo I had one of those guys..and fed them every day with invert food....some people can keep them but they are hard to keep, i am not trying to offend you...but please don't order these guys anymore..they should be kept in the ocean...whats done is done..best of luck with these guys...

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Wingo, You seem to know alot about freshwater systems, but if my memory serves me correct you just got your first marine aquarium in and running very recently, amd now you are going to get in the faces of people who have been caring for reef aquariums for years? I wouldn't do that, even more so we are talking about the life of an organism that you were told wsa very hard to care for. Hmmm Dr. F&S say it's meduim care because they want to sell the product. I now lump you into the greedy LFS who would rather make money instead of the guy who was in the hobby and decided he was gonna help out his fellow reefers. You need to ACTUALLY experience that you are not as knowledgable as you think with this reef stuff and take a backseat to some of the people here who have been doing it for a long long time. Start acting responsibly instead or like a child. Get some ACTUAL experience after doing the PROPER research and stop acting like a baby.

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Wingo In terms you might understand a little better:

These people don't come into your bar and tell you how to make drinks, don't come into theirs and tell them how to make drinks.

Reef Guy sorry for the hijack but irresponsible selling like this really gets me mad.

 

[thepudge]

I had a flame scallop for about 2 weeks, it died, but was very cool while I had it. I won't chime in on the difficulty of keeping them alive -- the only advice i can really give you is to try and make them stay where you can see them, mine more or less hid in the rockwork and became invisible.. If I ever get a big, thriving reef I will try one again.

Also, if you look closely, the "electricity" is not electricity, but a long, narrow flourescent flap of skin that runs along the tip of the scallop's mouth. The scallop flashes and ripples this skin, and it looks amazingly like an electric current. I think they do it to attract plankton and stuff.

 

[loismustdie]

I spoke to the guy who runs DT's Phytoplankton. He said an amazingly common mistake people make is buying large feather duster worms and flame scallops. Since they are typically low in price and very beautiful/interesting, they are very appealing to newer aquarists. He said flat out that you could pour a bottle of marine snow and a bottle of DT's Phytoplankton in your tank every day and not meet it's feeding requirements. This is a guy who sells the stuff and reccommends leaving them alone in the wild. That's why you see threads in here like "my feather duster dropped its cap".
That doesn't mean that some people have not kept them alive. It is not impossible. But the attrition rate is not worth it. It was already said that 50 hobbyists killing 50 animals isn't research. Wingo, I'm not taking any digs at you, so please don't take it personal. Keep in mind that it is not just the opinion of one senior MR reefer, it is also the opinion of guys like Anthony Calfo, Bob Fenner, Julian Sprung, etc.

 

[Deanos]

What are you guys feeding it? and how long have you had them

Flame Scallops

 

[loismustdie]

Hmmm, Wingo, I just viewed your thread where you were trying to sell them. Seems that you are well aware that they are in fact difficult to keep, with secret ingredients and failure to disseminate information, yet you got it to a hobbyist who doesn't even know how to feed it/doesn't even know that it isn't even electric.
Be careful. You will quickly shift your status to the same level of a guy who wants us to be aware of the realities of fish collection on one thread and selling rare/endangered fish not suited for the aquarium and illegally collected on another thread.
Again, I'm well aware that as the site grows, there will be a shift in membership. Seems to me that as we gain more vendors, more and more have much less experience than 90% of the members who are here for the hobby, not profits. We have vendors that post threads to sell stuff and on the same day, have a thread in the beginners forum asking what something is and how to care for it. This is the 3rd thread I've read in under a month where MR vendors got livestock to new hobbyists and then the new hobbyist came in here asking for information on proper care. Why didn't the vendor send them to MR first to get info they needed then let them decide to make the purchase? Oh, that's right, then they might not make the sale. Why didn't the vendor already provide the information? Right, he DOESN'T KNOW.
Vendors who sacrifice their own ethics for profit and inexperienced vendors should be red-flagged by the moderators for every member to see. This would help prevent inexperienced new reefers from buying things with false information and discouraging their attempts at keeping reef aquariums. Okay, I'll get off my high horse now... Back to topic.
All you can do is feed this thing. It doesn't require intense light. Options for feeding have already been stated. Another option is to take some cyclpoeeze with some water from your tank and some selcon. Put it in the blender and mix it up. You need to use the blender to make the cyclopeeze fine enough for the scallop to eat. The extra vitamins in the cyclopeeze and selcon may help you find the elusive "secret recipe" required to keep them alive. Please post info with your findings. No secrets.

 

[spykes]

if you want to keep them you need particle size around 50mM which is pain in the butt, plus your flame would have to fight with corals and everything else. what i recommend is a diet of rotifer and phytoplankton that or plain enriched phyto with all 3 phyto consumed. Iso tera and nano.

 

[ezee]

Wingo,

Wow, you are getting pummled here. I understand your reaction to the posts but try not to take it personally. Look at it this way, if that flame scallop dies because of non-suitability or inadequate knowledge of a tough to keep species that you sold him, it is just as much your responsibility, as his for buying something he doesn't know enough about. If he is asking what it eats then he wasn't even told that much, much less how difficult it is to keep.

To tell the truth you probably should not have ordered them to start off with. Despite what your friend says, they are DIFFICULT to keep alive, by a wide consensus of people. These are the same people that disagree whether 4 inches of sand is better than 1 inch is better than no inches, etc. But they all agree on this one.

Again try not to take it personally but more as a message that people are trying to impart to you. Just my opinion.

E

 

[thepudge]

Everyone.. they're just scallops... I eat them all the time. Sometimes I put wasabi mayo on them. They are delicious! Sure, it will probably die, but if someone wants to keep or kill a scallop, or murder thousands of the unthinking creatures, more power to them. They are less intelligent than the mysis shrimp and krill we feed our tanks. Telling this guy they are tough to keep is one thing, but buying a flame scallop doesn't make him a bad person.

 

[Deanos]

Everyone.. they're just scallops... I eat them all the time. Sometimes I put wasabi mayo on them. They are delicious! Sure, it will probably die, but if someone wants to keep or kill a scallop, or murder thousands of the unthinking creatures, more power to them. They are less intelligent than the mysis shrimp and krill we feed our tanks. Telling this guy they are tough to keep is one thing, but buying a flame scallop doesn't make him a bad person.

I was actually going to delete this post, but decided not to; I want to see the response it gets from people who actually care about the livestock they keep.