Help! Angle has Ich

[pmui]

Help!

Ghag! I just noticed my Majestic Angel has Ich! what med can i use in the tank? I still have some corals in the tank. Removing the fish is not an option, too much rock in the tank.

thanks,
Peter

 

[House of Laughter]

Try Greenex - do not overdose especially if you have clams.

House

 

[ECFENCING]

Is this the stuff?

http://watergarden.com/catalog/pond_treatment/greenex.php

 

[ulmo]

Try feeding garlic extract wih the food as well.

 

[House of Laughter]

No, this is the stuff

GREENEX
For Marine and Reef Tanks.
Prevents and controls
Protozoan Parasites on Fish,
White Spots, Scratching and
Darting of Fish, Cryptocaryon,
and Oodinum [Ick]. Used as
directed Greenex is fish and
invertabrate safe and will not
affect the biological filter.
{1 oz} treats 600 gallons.
{1 oz}
MEAQ-M41H ......... $4.29

Close to the bottom of the page middle http://www.mops.ca/pdf/page37.pdf

Also, you should be able to pick it up at any Petland Discount Store

House

 

[ECFENCING]

thx House. Pmui: Hope it will work itself out.

 

[House of Laughter]

anytime - good luck - I personally use garlic extract too - also, maybe tank is too small for the fish?

House

 

[ECFENCING]

House have you ever heard of this?
http://www.nosickfish.com/product_info.jsp
It was featured at MACNA this year.

 

[kimoyo]

The only proven cures for ich are hyposalinity and copper. None of the other stuff works, if it is safe for corals which are inverts its safe for the ich. I would do the copper. The ich will stay on the fish for 3-7 and then drop off the fish. Once it drops of the fish the copper will kill it.

Here is a very good website on ich, http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/marineich.html.

pmui - Eventhough you have rocks in the tank you can still get out any fish. Please read this thread on RC by Calfo, How to Catch Fish and Critters in Displays. The things Anthony talk about in the thread really work.

If you want to eliminate the ich, you have to take the fish out.

 

[Tonyscoots84]

i would try the garlic first as house said its much safer. see if it works itself out. and try not to stress the fish at all. see if it works out byitself with the garlic.

 

[kimoyo]

Guys, garlic won't cure the ich and while he is doing it the ich will only get worse. The longer the ich has access to the fish the more chances it will kill the fish.

 

[House of Laughter]

Also, keep your hands out of your tank - stop fiddling

I did se the nosickfish, but haven't red much up on it.

House

 

[Tonyscoots84]

so what is he to do. its not always a great idea to use chemicals to treat diseases in the tank. and he wont take the fish out cause theres to much rock work. any suggestions on some display tank chemicals THAT are safe. hehehe are there any.

 

[Tonyscoots84]

agree with house

 

[kimoyo]

Here's an article by Steven Pro on Garlic, please read if you have a chance. Garlic: What has been Studied Versus What has been Claimed.

Here is a big RC thread "ICH FREE TANK" Quest Begins on ich. It talks about nosickfish not working and a whole bunch of other stuff.

 

[kimoyo]

so what is he to do. its not always a great idea to use chemicals to treat diseases in the tank. and he wont take the fish out cause theres to much rock work. any suggestions on some display tank chemicals THAT are safe. hehehe are there any.

I just posted 4 references of all the info anyone would need to treat ich.
Anthony Caflo clearly outlines how to get any fish out of any tank. All anyone needs to do is take the time to read it. I caught a sohal tang, naso tang and emperor angel myself using his techniques without moving rocks.

Steven Pro clearly talks about the myths of garlic

ATJ talks all about ich, its cycles and cures.

And I posted a link where many hobbyist talk about their ich experiences.

Why would you keep advising him to just do garlic? Have you read any of those links? And have you successfully eliminated ich before?

I would also argue that a fish suffering thru ich would be much more stressed than a fish going thru a proper (not overdosed) copper treatment (which can be done in 2 weeks).

 

[Tonyscoots84]

i have. takes time i used garlic on my blue hippo. made sure water is pristine. fed nori dipped in garlic. fed some byrne shrimp soaked in garlic. kept the hands out of the water and kept him calm. it worked for me. thats why i advised that.

 

[kimoyo]

Are you saying that the garlic cured your fish of ich?

 

[Tonyscoots84]

i would say that might of helped with some tlc and pristine water cured him. there no reason to get all crazy dude. im just giving advice on what has worked for me. i wouldnt give it if i havent experienced it. everyone is free to give advice as long as there is experience behind the advice. with anything he is going to read up on ich which is highly suggested.. im not trying to argue with ya the steps that i mentioned worked for me and should also work for him. thats all. no biggie.

 

[kimoyo]

Why would you say I'm getting crazy for asking why you are advising something and to clarify what you are saying? If your giving advice you should be able to back it up with references, not by saying the other person is acting crazy.

One ich parasite can turn into 200 in as little as 6 days. Time is an issue with ich. Telling someone garlic will cure ich (with no prove at all) IMO is not good advice.