Sump + Display Fuge

[Clink51]

Question Ladies and Germs.

I have a 29g. I would like to set up 2 10g next to it. The top one being the Display Fuge and the 2nd being the Sump. Can this be safely done without loosing any real power from the return pump since it will have to do a 45 angle in and out to feed the Display Tank?

Here is a VERY basic Blueprint

My Questions:
- Will the 45 degree bend cause any major restrictions?
- Size of in and out? I was thinking 1/2 inch in 3/4 inch out (or 3/4 inch in and 1inch out)
- Size return pump?

 

[n3hihz]

Hi maybe I'm missing something. The water is going into the fuge via siphon? I don't see any in to the fuge.

 

[Clink51]

Hi maybe I'm missing something. The water is going into the fuge via siphon? I don't see any in to the fuge.

Whats goes into the fuge via the return pump being split by with er a T or a Y piece. Flow into the fuge will be controlled via a gate valve. The water will return into the Sump via the siphon

 

[n3hihz]

Ok red when you "in" would be drain line and blue when you say out means return line.

 

[Clink51]

Yes, I worded it all wrong, im sorry lmao

 

[n3hihz]

Well, I would say the final amount of water in the 2 displays would be 39G then amount of water in sump. I would run a pump that's 3-5 times that amount of water per hour. The 45 degree shouldn't restrict the flow too much.

Consider drilling your 10G display fuge instead of siphon? Or get an aqua lifter just in case, you don't want a flood.

Here's a good article that might shed some light.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-01/newbie/index.php

 

[edd]

i would drill the fuge as mentioned. you should be ok with the 45s better than 90. just make sure your sump can handle the drain down of both tanks.

 

[troywalkerphoto]

I like the setup and would go with the larger return pumps and drilling the fuge. I would however say that you should add a second drain to the fuge .3 to 1 inch above the main drain within the level of the top so that if there is any blockage with algae, snails, etc, there will not be overflow issues. I would also think that there should be a backup pump in the system. If the display drains to the bottom of the overflow during an outage how many gallons go to the sump and how much backflo?
So backup on fuge drain, backup pump, and check valves so the backflo is stopped.
Few extra dollars vs pissed Landlord or Mrs.

 

[Clink51]

Pipe size? 3/4 drain and 1/2 Return sound okay?

 

[viplok]

dont do 3/4 drain its way too small. go 1 1/2 or 1 inch at the very min. 1/2 return sounds find =]

 

[Clink51]

The idea continues to evolve. I just remembered i have a 29g behind my house. OIts been unused for quite some time. Any ideas on how to clean that bad boy out? i know im going to have to remove and re silicone all the joints.

Idea now is 29 DT, 20gH DR, 29g Sump... lmaooo is this to crazy?

 

[viplok]

nuttin is too crae. if yah wanna do it you do it.

buy a bottle of vinegar. poor it in mix with a little water. leave it there for a day or too.

TaDA! brand new tank!

 

[Clink51]

nuttin is too crae. if yah wanna do it you do it.

buy a bottle of vinegar. poor it in mix with a little water. leave it there for a day or too.

TaDA! brand new tank!

How much vinegar:water ration? 1:2?

the TaDa part made me LOL at work

 

[n3hihz]

How much vinegar:water ration? 1:2?

the TaDa part made me LOL at work

Depends on how dirty it is. I only used 2 gallon for my 40 breeder.

also you can use this calculator to see how much your tanks overflow to see how much extra room you need in your sump
http://www.reefcentral.com/index.php/sump-volume

 

[viplok]

idk on ratio. what i do is fill the tank pour some in. if the stuff still not coming off put more. and what ever n3hihz said good link. i think they have headloss calculator too.

 

[n3hihz]

2 gallons was actually a slight over kill for my 40B. I had coralline algae covering ~50% of the tank stuck to the glass... but it worked great. I would say that 1/2 gallon would prob be enough if you don't anything stuck to the glass. If you really want it spotless, you can do 1:10 bleach bath, rinse til bleach is gone then do vinegar bath. Nothing will survive from that.

 

[Clink51]

am i just letting it soak or do i need a powerhead in there also?

 

[n3hihz]

am i just letting it soak or do i need a powerhead in there also?

I just let mine soak but you can throw your power head in there too. It'll clean that at the same time.

Did this with the used skimmers, pump, bioballs, power head, etc. tank was filled and did it all at once. Worked like a charm. Everything looks like new after

 

[Clink51]

Question ladies and gentleman,

I want to do the BeanAnimal with a coast to coast overflow. I have a return pump measured for 700gph. Would 3/4 drains and 1/2 return be to much? i've been reading up on this and have been hearing that those measurements are just fine for a 29g. Personally i feel that 3 1 inch drains is just a tad bit excessive. your views?

 

[viplok]

i got an 1 inch drain i and wish i went with a 1.5. if the drain is on top to mid level of the tank (i am assuming) it will not have the water pressure to drain compare to those that are located on bottom of the tank. but if u have 3 3/4 drain i think it will be okay. 1 inch is probly a over kill.